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brown_hawk
05-05-2008, 10:40 PM
I've had these for a while, but with the discussion of the Wixey Angle Gauge for setup, I thought I'd throw in a review of these setup tools that I've used for planing wood for my kitchen cabinets.:)

In doing the kitchen cabinets of rough cut lumber, the initial job was also one of the biggest: four side a stack of 4’x4’x8’ one inch rough cut white oak to 3/4” stock.

Since I already had a ShopSmith Pro Planer, I naturally made plans to use it for the job. One thing I recognized was that I was going to have to keep the blades sharp, which also meant taking them out and putting them in again as many times as needed. Since this can be a fairly painstaking process, I looked into ways to make it a little simpler and faster, as the sharper the blades were kept, the better the end product.

What I ended up with was the Jointer Pal and the Planer Pal. These use rare earth magnets to hold the blades of the jointers and the planers level while all you do is screw the wedge in place and go.

The Jointer Pal is a one piece unit running around $30. The procedure is simple. Unplug the machine, move the fence out of the way, remove the blades for sharpening. Put the sharp blades in place, with the wedge holding them loosely. Put the Jointer Pal on the outfaced table, with one set of magnets holding the blade at the highest point of rotation. Screw in the wedge, go to the next blade and repeat. At the end of five minutes, your jointer is ready to go, with all the blades perfectly aligned with the outfaced table. To move a nicked blade, just repeat the above procedure, just making sure that the blade has moved far enough to eliminate the nick.

For a 12” planer, two of the Planer Pal units are recommended (about $150). Those first need to be aligned to make sure that they are both holding to the same height. The Planer Pals are a half circle that clamp on over the blade area and hold the blade the same way as the Jointer Pals do.

They don’t make one for the ShopSmith, and the regular ones sit a little high. To get them to work, the plastic top over the dust port has to be taken off, and the aluminum shield just below that needs to be slightly bent up. Bend it too far, and chips WILL come flying out of the small gap between the plastic top and the metal top. To do this, a long allan wrench that can be chucked into a cordless drill makes the job a lot less tedious. The screws holding on the plastic top are long and awkward to remove. But a whole lot less frustrating than trying to set planer blades with gauge, screws and squinting eyes.

Once the setup is done, setting the blades goes very quickly. Again, about five minutes and the blades are in and you are ready to close up the planer. For the SS, that gets a little tedious without the allan wrench in the drill, but the effect on the wood of sharp blades is very gratifying. Using the slow feed and fastest blade rotation on all of the wood described, I start my sanding with 220 grit, because I don’t need any greater grit. So much for the end product of sharp blades and fairly easy blade settings.

Would I recommend these two setup tools? Or any similar magnetic setup tools?

For the Jointer Pal, at $30, the answer is yes. For that amount of money, and the trouble misaligned jointer blades can cause on a fine project, it makes all kind of sense to just have such a handy setup tool, especially if you do any amount of jointing. And if you are using bifocals, life just got simpler.

For the Planer Pal, at @ $150, at this point, I am very ambivalent, at least for the SS planers. The amount of money involved, and the preparation of setting them up are two big negatives. It would take planing a LOT of wood (like over 1000 board feet) to make this attractive. I’m not sorry I bought it, and I am more than glad that I had it while planing that mountain of wood, but today I would probably be more inclined to use the Battery Operated Height Finder and the SS gauge than the Planer Pal. Both will do the job. If they made a model that fit the SS so removing the top wasn’t necessary, I would give it a better mark and recommendation. As it is, I’d give it a 5 of 10.

If you are going to be planing a lot of wood and sharpening your own blades to save money and get smooth final cuts, then the Planer Pal is an option worthy of your consideration for the SS.

For other planers where the Planer Pal fits without all the fiddling, I’d go 7 of 10, mostly because of the price.

Hawk

ldh
05-05-2008, 11:43 PM
Has anyone tried the MINI PLANER PAL device to set the planer blades?
Grizzly sells it as MODEL G3641 at $29.95.

LDH

brown_hawk
05-06-2008, 06:54 AM
Has anyone tried the MINI PLANER PAL device to set the planer blades?
Grizzly sells it as MODEL G3641 at $29.95.

LDH

Well, I just looked at them on the Grizzly site, and they are described as being for cutterheads of 1-7/8 - 2-1/8 inches, which covers the SS. They didn't have these when I bought my Planer Pals, and at $30 I would buy them in a heartbeat.

I notice that they also have the larger ones for $70.

Without trying them, after using the larger ones, I'd have to say that at $30 I'd jump on it. I'll give Woodstock a call later today to check if this will fit the SS. I'll post when I find out what they say.

Hawk

brown_hawk
05-06-2008, 03:00 PM
Okay, Gail at SS says the cutter head is 2" in diameter without the blades, 2-1/4 with the blades.

Woodstock said that their dimension of 1-7/8 to 2-1/8 is the cutter head itself without the blades, so there should be no problem.

For $30 I might just take some of the money from the latest vote-buying scheme and try them.

Anybody interested in buying a used set of Planer Pals??:D

Hawk

charlese
05-06-2008, 11:18 PM
I can understand the enthusiasm over the Jointer Pal. Not to dis that jig, I wanted to point to some other alternatives. Most of which have been discussed on the Forum. Some guys just use a piece of glass laid on the outfeed table. Personally, I still prefer using a metal ruler, standing on edge. Nick and Drew came up with a system that incorporated a pair of dial indicators, in Sawdust session #6.
http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/Sawdust_Sessions.htm#Setting_Jointer_Knives

This next one is from Woodcraft. It, like the "Pal" sells for $30.
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?FamilyID=908

One word of caution about aligning jointer knives. If the outboard edge of all three knives are located 1/32" past the outfeed table, the jointer becomes a wonderful tool for cutting rabbets or tongue tenons (for tongue and groove joinery). If the knives are shifted sideways to compensate for nicks, the measurement for rabbets is thrown off and the smoothness of rabbet milling is sacrificed.

paul heller
05-06-2008, 11:24 PM
I have something called a Magnaset. I bought this in the late 80s directly from Shopsmith. It was made by a company called Uniquest and was sold through Shopsmith.

It sounds similar to what you are describing. It cost $49 back in the day. In today's dollars it seems more expensive than the jointer pal.

Paul

ldh
05-07-2008, 12:37 AM
Take the time to build the jointer knife setting jig from Nick's plans. I built one in January and having set six sets of jointer knives since building it I can tell you that it is a great tool, and I might add fun to build. I posted pics of it in January.

I have always used the tool supplied by SS for setting the planer knives, but for $30.00 I decided to try the MINI PLANER PAL from Grizzly. I have two planers that need the knives changed, so I will let you know.

LDH

brown_hawk
05-07-2008, 07:26 AM
LDH,

I have come to the conclusion that anything that helps a setup to be faster OR more accurate is something that I want. If I can get both, it's even better. That's why I went with the 520 upgrade, and why I went with these setup tools.

Hey. More time with wood, less with tools, I might actually be able to get something built! :cool:

Let us know what you think.

Hawk