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charlese
07-21-2008, 02:03 PM
Hi Chris - Thank you for keeping us posted on your work.! I had many things to say in answer to you bird house thread, however it was bedtime so it's best to wait until some sleep.

First of all and most important - the completed project is really exciting! The involvement of your friends and the excellent artistry of the women-folk was almost as much fun for me to read, as it was for you'all to do! A neat project with a wonderful end result!:)

Your photographic expertise continues to amaze, and you gift of gab doesn't suffer either. Your writing is fun to read!

Now if I could - I would like to throw in a couple of critiques of the woodworking. I do this only because I know you are just beginning on what will be a lasting hobby.

Let me comment on the pinching (while ripping) you observed. You didn't do anything wrong here except choose the wrong board (or the wrong edge of a board) to rip. If you look at the 'pinching'/ saw kerf-closing photo, you can see you have a plain sawn board. (Nothing to cause concern yet) - - You can also see that this board was sawn from the log in a manner that was not parallel to the grain of that log. The way that happens is: if there was a crook or bend or severe taper in that log - the side of the log resting on the sawmill carriage presents the top of the log at an angle to the sawmills blade. (the sides of the log are also similarly affected)
At any rate, when the slabs are removed you get a cant of wood where the grain runs does not parallel with the sawmill carriage. The resulting boards will have grain that runs in a slant to the edges of the board. This is what you have/had. When you find that situation, the chances are greater that the board will contain wood under stress, or reaction wood. Some reaction wood is non avoidable. Your board looks to have a goodly amount. Although there is no way for most of us to avoid reaction wood, it (if possible) behooves us to inspect the boards before buying to look for signs of it. Diagonally grain is one sign.
Personally, I prefer rift sawn or quarter sawn straight grained. Sometimes out of wider boards, you can rip narrower boards that have better grain configuration and if necessary edge glue them back together. - -
*With all that said - birdhouses really do not justify a lot of "board scrutiny", but you can always expect some cull wood when pulling boards off a shelf, and pinches like that have nothing to do with your doing something wrong while sawing. In Fact - you did right by having the splitter in place. That is what it is there for! Perhaps the other edge of that board was rift grain that would have been more stable.

Next - I would like to throw in a minor critique of the positioning of your miter gauge when sawing the slanted sides of the houses. I wish you photo had included a floating table on the left side of the blade to support the miter extension. This would have made your cuts perhaps a bit less fuzzy on the bottom. Personally, I like to use the other side of the blade for making such cuts. The wider table on the right side gives more base without adding floating tables. (I use the same aluminum extension)

Speaking of the right side and left side of the blade - Although you properly used a spacer so our cross bevel cut did not ride on the fence, you really should have used the other side of the blade and kept your workpiece under the blade and the cutoff to the upper side. Reference: PTWFE Pg. 33. This is a safety issue. If the workpiece slips, it will not fall into the spinning blade as easily, and you can remove the workpiece from below the blade, rather than above it.

How did Jim like the Shopsmith?

You and Dusty have answered my question about the ceiling storage shelves.

Thanks again, for your thread it is a happy thing to follow along with your excitement and progress with you new hobby. Keep making sawdust!:)

nuhobby
07-21-2008, 07:39 PM
Super job & writeup & fun, Chris!

friscomike
07-21-2008, 10:14 PM
Good job, Chris. I learned a new tip about bottom slot ventilation. We need that in Tejas for the blue birds.

Best Regards,
mike

Bruce
07-22-2008, 06:57 PM
I'll have to post a photo of the bluebird house I built this spring once I get my camera outside. It is not painted all pretty like Chris', but the birds don't seem to mind. I have my 2nd brood of bluebird hatchlings this season. The 1st brood had 4 nestlings and this brood started with 4, but the house sparrows killed two before I got my "sparrow spooker" built and installed. I do have a photo of the 1st brood soon after hatching.

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BTW, Chris, those are nice bird houses.

Bruce

chrispitude
07-23-2008, 11:42 AM
Hi guys,

I am always glad to share my experiences with you guys, and grateful that you all share both your energy and experience. My wife took some more pictures of her birdhouses here:

detailed birdhouse pictures (http://www.tritty.org/index.php?album=Birdhouses&dispsize=1024&start=0)

We are boxing the Texas birdhouse up and she is sending it to her mom as a birthday present!

Hi Chuck,

Thanks for the detailed response! You are right that the board had a great deal of "reaction" (did not know the word for it - thanks!). The picture I took was after running the blade into the piece a few times. Each time, it removed more from the narrow side and eventually bound up, and the board kept closing up more and more. There's a good three kerfs worth of missing wood and it still wanted to close up at the end. I'll keep an eye on the grain next time, there's no reason to stack the deck against myself if I can help it.

I see what you are saying about making the 30 degree cross-cuts. The left end of the miter extension is hanging out there, and could have benefitted from some support. I tend to favor the left side of the blade because I am a righty, and I am still a bit novice and don't like to reach across the plane of the blade unless necessary.

Regarding the tilted table cuts, this was something I wasn't sure about. I chose the configuration I did because if I cut with the trimmed piece on the uphill side, I figured it would fall into the blade and turn into a projectile. I decided it was better to let the trimmed piece "fall away" although I can see that having the big board become a projectile if I let go of the miter grip would be even less pleasant. I tried accessing the PTWFE on the Shopsmith site but I seem to be having some browser problems. I will try again after this posting in a different browser.

Jim is very impressed with the Shopsmith! He and his wife have other priorities right now (of the 18 year commitment variety) but his working space is limited as is mine, and I think perhaps there could be a Shopsmith in his future. He was really impressed by the total configurability of the Shopsmith, especially since we were always able to tilt something or put a stop somewhere, etc., to make steady progress through the project. He also helped me perform an alignment before we got started, and he was impressed with the precision and repeatability of the machine.

Observation - I tend to move my stock laterally on the table while the upper guard is resting on it, causing the guard to get pulled into the spinning blade. Every time I do it, it makes a loud noise and scares the heck out of me. :)

- Chris

eldyfig
07-23-2008, 10:23 PM
Very nice project and thanks for the EPA link for birdhouses. That will be handy. I sure wish I had someone to work with on a project like that. LOML makes plenty of requests, but hasn't showed interest in partenering up on a project in the shop.

charlese
07-23-2008, 11:09 PM
[QUOTE=chrispitude] I tend to favor the left side of the blade because I am a righty, and I am still a bit novice and don't like to reach across the plane of the blade unless necessary.
We all need to learn to saw both left and right handed. (also use lathe tools both right and left handed) (even hand chisel right and left handed). Believe me! The time will come when you will find the only safe and best way to do an operation is to do it left handed (or the opposite way you are used to). After you learn to use both right & left hand use of the tools, you will find woodworking to quickly become a lot easier and intuitive!
You can practice with the table saw, without wood and without the motor running! Just stand noticeably to the left side of the blade and move the miter gauge (located in the right miter gauge slot) back and forth across the table, using your left hand. You can adjust your feet to get comfortable with this. After becoming a little confident - try the same movement with the saw running and a scrap piece of wood.

I tried accessing the PTWFE on the Shopsmith site ...
Don't you have a hard copy?

Observation - I tend to move my stock laterally on the table while the upper guard is resting on it, causing the guard to get pulled into the spinning blade. Every time I do it, it makes a loud noise and scares the heck out of me. :)
Don't do that any more!!!!:p It'll scare you and mar your blade guard.