mid-'50s shopsmith disassembling and cleaning -- help

[JPG40504]

. . . I think I need a new drive belt because this one's frayed. But the other belt (not Poly-V -- has teeth) looks great.

I CANNOT turn the screws that hold the motor. Tried WD-40. Twice.


The 'motor drive belt' being 'frayed' is not a likely problem. Wear of the belt to a width of less than 7/16" (measured at the outer larger width edge) is an indication to replace it. Not a bad idea to replace it ANYWAY.

The motor mounting screws are usually #3 Phillips. Most folks do NOT have the proper screwdriver for these. Yes phillips screws/drivers come in different sizes with the #2 being the most common and the #1 next. This is where "p1", "p2", px come from. Do NOT try to loosen these bolts without the proper screwdriver! You do NOT want to 'booger up' the screw heads.:eek:

Good Luck and keep up the good work you are doing.:)

[charlese]

I want to second what beeg said! Don't use the turtle wax cleaner.

Mineral spirits should do most of the cleaning for you as you have no rust. Use Johnson's original formula paste wax on the outside of the quill and also treat the hole where it slides in, with wax. This is a standard wax for all exposed parts of the mark V. Automobile products don't work well here! Remember to buff well!

One of those metal bolt/nut loosening agents will help free up the screws that hold the motor. Ask a local mechanic or parts store. They work MUCH better than WD-40 for this purpose. Also a little metal to metal contact will help to free up a bolt. You can use a flat punch and light ball pien hammer to rap the top of the screw/bolt.

[dlbristol]

I love this forum! Three guys offering help to some one they don't even know. The advice is better than you could buy at any price, the price is free, and the product ( knowledge) is pretty much guarenteed for a life time. The best part, It gets passed on to others who pass it on and on.
I'm thinking I would trust 7 guys or gals from this forum, chosen at random, to run the country. Regardless of who is or was in power. Not a political statement, just an indorsement of the kind of people who care deeply about things and have some real experience and are willing to share thier expertise. Not a bad model for the rest of the country.

[JPG40504]

I love this forum! . . . . . .

I'm thinking I would trust 7 guys or gals from this forum, chosen at random, to run the country. Regardless of who is or was in power. Not a political statement, just an indorsement of the kind of people who care deeply about things and have some real experience and are willing to share thier expertise. Not a bad model for the rest of the country.

Bad idea!:D
The experience would ruin them forever(just like all others who will have preceded them to D.C.). MOST all anyway.
We need them here to help us all!:)

[fjimp]

Man that's a lot of trust. Then again most woodworkers seem to be long on common sense which unfortunately is a commodity many worl leaders seem to lack. fjimp

[edward]

I for one am very grateful. I look at my disassembled Shopsmith and think that if it weren't for you folks I'd be up a bad creek.

So, thin oil and Johnson's wax. I can do that. What do I wax and what do I lube?

#3 philips head -- very helpful.

Any advice on a machinist checking out/fixing the bearings on the quill and drive sleeve assembly?

Thanks again.

[edward]

Another conundrum!

There's no setscrew holding in the Quill Feed Pinion. It's been FILLED IN with some kind of metal filler. I tried tapping out the pinion but no dice. Tap harder? Drill out the metal?

[etc92guy]

If you can't get the motor screws loose, get yourself a can of Kroil. After spraying the bolts let them sit for 20-25 minutes. They should then ease out. Especially with the P#3 screwdriver. It can be done.;)

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