Made in America?

[dusty]

I have NOT done any research to verify this for myself but this website caught my attention. These are very impressive names! Are all of these items really made in China.

Is anything American Made anymore?

Browse around on this website. It was a real eye opener for me.

http://www.geetech.com.tw/sp.html

[ashbury]

Dusty:

Are you going to open this can of worms again? Enough already on this forum. There are many on this forum that become fighting mad over this subject and I guess it is discussed over frustration about the subject. Haven't you realised that this country has been, and continues to be sold out. For the first time in my life, I'm glad I'm old and won't be a part of it too much longer. I just hate it for my children and theirs. Most of my hand tools are treasured because they have Made in American stamped on them by once proud factories and most are as good as the day they were manufactured. Sadly, 80% of my power tools are made elsewhere and even parts of my SS collection are made elsewhere. We can hash this over and over until the fat lady sings.

[JPG40504]

Dusty:

Are you going to open this can of worms again? Enough already on this forum. There are many on this forum that become fighting mad over this subject and I guess it is discussed over frustration about the subject. Haven't you realised that this country has been, and continues to be sold out. For the first time in my life, I'm glad I'm old and won't be a part of it too much longer. I just hate it for my children and theirs. Most of my hand tools are treasured because they have Made in American stamped on them by once proud factories and most are as good as the day they were manufactured. Sadly, 80% of my power tools are made elsewhere and even parts of my SS collection are made elsewhere. We can hash this over and over until the fat lady sings.

I do NOT think it is Dusty's intention to incite madness or frustration over this subject. I think his intention was to call our attention to those 'brands' which we all recognize as 'US' companies. i.e. he IS making us aware of 'the problem'(perhaps again but so what, it needs doing).

There is not much we as individuals can do about it, however, HOPEFULLY that guy on TV last night recognizes that the exportation of our manufacturing capability IS part of our CURRENT 'economic troubles' over the past few decades. Sure WE can 'get stuff cheaper', but we WILL pay for it in the long run(think descendants).

DUSTY: Apparently you DID succeed in getting a 'lurker' out of the shadows!!!

[dusty]

Dusty:

Are you going to open this can of worms again? Enough already on this forum. There are many on this forum that become fighting mad over this subject and I guess it is discussed over frustration about the subject. Haven't you realised that this country has been, and continues to be sold out. For the first time in my life, I'm glad I'm old and won't be a part of it too much longer. I just hate it for my children and theirs. Most of my hand tools are treasured because they have Made in American stamped on them by once proud factories and most are as good as the day they were manufactured. Sadly, 80% of my power tools are made elsewhere and even parts of my SS collection are made elsewhere. We can hash this over and over until the fat lady sings.

While you have not been a regular poster to this forum, I respect your opinion immensely.

I do not believe "this can of worms" has been opened before.

However, it was not my intention to aggravate anyone. My real point was that many of the manufacturers whom we generally feel provide quality product are in fact associated with the Chinese connection. NOT ALL CHINESE PRODUCED GOODS ARE CRAP. Only those that are purchased at low prices.

Welcome to the forum, ashbury. May we participate in many more healthy discussions and expression of differing opinions.

[joedw00]

Good Post Dusty,Thanks :)

[kalynzoo]

I appreciate reading/listening to differing opinions, as long as I am permitted to retain my own opinion. There is much to be said for a global economy, fighting poverty in underdeveloped countries, etc.
I for one will continue to look for the MADE IN USA stamp on products I purchase. If products serve an equal purpose I will support "made in USA"
This is my opinion, and my choice. I respect yours.
To all of you, keep on posting, I enjoy the information gleamed from this forum.

[Ed in Tampa]

Dusty
I know a guy that disagrees to some extent. He was a a tool salesman that worked for one of the companies in question. His opinion is that the products now made in China are a far inferior quality to the product that was once made in the US.

He cites such things as quality of bearings, quality of cast iron, quality of steel, quality of the motors, even quality of the lube.

He says the bearings are made with tolerances that were once considered reject tolerances, that the cast iron and steel are sub standard, has impurities, and in many instances faults that would have landed them in the reject pile before. His opinion of the motors was that they also contain inferior bearings, thinner gauge wiring, wiring of lower quality products, insulation coating that are inferior and contacts and capacitors that are of reduced quality. He cites the common lube as being a product that was once rejected as being substandard.

I do not know how much is truth and how much is sour grapes but I do know instead of buying a new product at fantastic employee cost he bought a used product all US made from a friend. I believe he paid more.

At one time he would badger me to get a "real" machine instead of my SS but the last time I asked he told me to hang on to my Shopsmith, that it was twice the quality to anything new that was being sold.

[bucksaw]

I have NOT done any research to verify this for myself but this website caught my attention. These are very impressive names! Are all of these items really made in China.

Is anything American Made anymore?

Browse around on this website. It was a real eye opener for me.

http://www.geetech.com.tw/sp.html

Delta has seen some light and brought the Unisaw back home. Great move by Delta!

China quality can range form poor to high. Depends on the factory and the specs supplied by the customer and the price point the customer is trying to achieve. To remain competitive, many American companies have lowered specs. It's not the China manufacturer's fault that Porter-Cable lowered the specs on their new line of Cordless tools. Porter-Cable wanted to sell more units to the hobbiest.